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	<title>Comments on: Why Social Media Is Like a Screwdriver &#8211; Think Utility, Not ROI</title>
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		<title>By: mark evertz</title>
		<link>http://www.terrystarbucker.com/2009/06/28/why-social-media-is-like-a-screwdriver-think-utility-not-roi/comment-page-1/#comment-3084</link>
		<dc:creator>mark evertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry...always a pleasure to read your stuff. 

Love the idea of social media as a utility/tool to get what you need out of it...drink up some knowledge and move on. The unfortunate thing...and I know because up until June 29 I was battling it daily...is the fixation on the acronyms of ROI, TCO, PPC, EIEIO...etc. 

I get it...budgets are tight and you have to prove value, but when was the last time you were forced to prove value for a Google or Wikipedia search for information? And how fruitful was that search?

That&#039;s what I&#039;ve begun using Twitter and other mediums for...checking for a pulse. And while I haven&#039;t begun monetizing my time -- yet -- Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, posting on blogs like yours, and anything else I can contribute to sure does result in clicks to my site, gets people aware of me and collectively makes me a lot smarter.

That an ROI I&#039;m totally comfortable at present, even though I am and my Web voice is still very much a work in progress.

I consider it a personal brand value prop instead of a lead gen value prop. Lead gen has its vehicles (DM, pay-per-click, e-mail + microsites, teleprospecting, banners (ugh!) etc.) Use those to justify ROI. Use social media to gain awareness, share insight and provide a voice for your brand. Oh, and a few exclusive offers to your exclusive SM peeps never hurts either.
Cheers,
Mark, aka, ev</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry&#8230;always a pleasure to read your stuff. </p>
<p>Love the idea of social media as a utility/tool to get what you need out of it&#8230;drink up some knowledge and move on. The unfortunate thing&#8230;and I know because up until June 29 I was battling it daily&#8230;is the fixation on the acronyms of ROI, TCO, PPC, EIEIO&#8230;etc. </p>
<p>I get it&#8230;budgets are tight and you have to prove value, but when was the last time you were forced to prove value for a Google or Wikipedia search for information? And how fruitful was that search?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve begun using Twitter and other mediums for&#8230;checking for a pulse. And while I haven&#8217;t begun monetizing my time &#8212; yet &#8212; Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, posting on blogs like yours, and anything else I can contribute to sure does result in clicks to my site, gets people aware of me and collectively makes me a lot smarter.</p>
<p>That an ROI I&#8217;m totally comfortable at present, even though I am and my Web voice is still very much a work in progress.</p>
<p>I consider it a personal brand value prop instead of a lead gen value prop. Lead gen has its vehicles (DM, pay-per-click, e-mail + microsites, teleprospecting, banners (ugh!) etc.) Use those to justify ROI. Use social media to gain awareness, share insight and provide a voice for your brand. Oh, and a few exclusive offers to your exclusive SM peeps never hurts either.<br />
Cheers,<br />
Mark, aka, ev</p>
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		<title>By: Cops 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social media doesn&#8217;t bring a changing of the guard</title>
		<link>http://www.terrystarbucker.com/2009/06/28/why-social-media-is-like-a-screwdriver-think-utility-not-roi/comment-page-1/#comment-3079</link>
		<dc:creator>Cops 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social media doesn&#8217;t bring a changing of the guard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This blog post points out that it is very difficult to measure the extent to which social media tools “should” be used, and ultimately is used in conjunction with other traditional means of communication anyway. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This blog post points out that it is very difficult to measure the extent to which social media tools “should” be used, and ultimately is used in conjunction with other traditional means of communication anyway. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Starbucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starbucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris, and thanks for the comment.   I agree that there is certainly a &quot;return&quot; to be gained from using Social Media, but as you point out there is a lot of struggle going on out there with measurement.    On the one hand, when the cost of entry is practically free, it doesn&#039;t take much to generate what looks like a fantastic ROI, but on the other, that &quot;fantastic&quot; looking number in an absolute sense could pale in comparison to what could be generated by better use of all the tools in the communication toolbox.   I&#039;m advocating more of a &quot;holistic&quot; approach that uses the Utility concept to rationally prioritize all the tools, as a way to allocate money and resources to the right places.  The return comes from the improvement in bottom line results resulting from this allocation of resources.

Twitter&#039;s role in all of this is exactly what you&#039;ve offered here - a means to be more proactive.

Thanks again - it&#039;s always a pleasure to discuss the finer points of this medium with you! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris, and thanks for the comment.   I agree that there is certainly a &#8220;return&#8221; to be gained from using Social Media, but as you point out there is a lot of struggle going on out there with measurement.    On the one hand, when the cost of entry is practically free, it doesn&#8217;t take much to generate what looks like a fantastic ROI, but on the other, that &#8220;fantastic&#8221; looking number in an absolute sense could pale in comparison to what could be generated by better use of all the tools in the communication toolbox.   I&#8217;m advocating more of a &#8220;holistic&#8221; approach that uses the Utility concept to rationally prioritize all the tools, as a way to allocate money and resources to the right places.  The return comes from the improvement in bottom line results resulting from this allocation of resources.</p>
<p>Twitter&#8217;s role in all of this is exactly what you&#8217;ve offered here &#8211; a means to be more proactive.</p>
<p>Thanks again &#8211; it&#8217;s always a pleasure to discuss the finer points of this medium with you! <img src='http://www.terrystarbucker.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Starbucker</title>
		<link>http://www.terrystarbucker.com/2009/06/28/why-social-media-is-like-a-screwdriver-think-utility-not-roi/comment-page-1/#comment-3077</link>
		<dc:creator>Starbucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kristina, and I hope your presentation goes well.  All the best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kristina, and I hope your presentation goes well.  All the best!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Working out this stuff is different depending on your organization type. It is easy for me as a one man band to justify my social media involvement as I only have myself to answer to. I have had leads, opportunities and clients just from twitter, so there is my ROI.

For a larger company you have to justify the time or other resources you require in advance. There are several costs involved for larger companies, not least opportunity cost. I work with several clients who are only now committed to social media after months of trial schemes, and those were a leap of faith.

Companies who struggle most with the ROI question are those who do not have a capability to measure their PR investment, active branding campaigns, display advertising, community outreach, etc. On the other end of the scale are the &quot;direct&quot; companies who are already measuring right through the chain using coupons, sampling, lead capture, commission structures, analytics and online advertising. For them social tools and interactions can be plugged in as sources. Just look at Dell, their profits just from Twitter are in the millions, but they have gained far more I imagine from their idea generation and engagement campaigns.

Twitter in particular is becoming key to proactive customer service - hunting out the people who are upset/disappointed before the issues fester. We are not yet at the stage where social media is a &quot;must have&quot;, like a website and email customer service, but I think we will get there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working out this stuff is different depending on your organization type. It is easy for me as a one man band to justify my social media involvement as I only have myself to answer to. I have had leads, opportunities and clients just from twitter, so there is my ROI.</p>
<p>For a larger company you have to justify the time or other resources you require in advance. There are several costs involved for larger companies, not least opportunity cost. I work with several clients who are only now committed to social media after months of trial schemes, and those were a leap of faith.</p>
<p>Companies who struggle most with the ROI question are those who do not have a capability to measure their PR investment, active branding campaigns, display advertising, community outreach, etc. On the other end of the scale are the &#8220;direct&#8221; companies who are already measuring right through the chain using coupons, sampling, lead capture, commission structures, analytics and online advertising. For them social tools and interactions can be plugged in as sources. Just look at Dell, their profits just from Twitter are in the millions, but they have gained far more I imagine from their idea generation and engagement campaigns.</p>
<p>Twitter in particular is becoming key to proactive customer service &#8211; hunting out the people who are upset/disappointed before the issues fester. We are not yet at the stage where social media is a &#8220;must have&#8221;, like a website and email customer service, but I think we will get there.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Summers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops posted too quickly! What I was trying to say is that this bit sums it all up so perfectly: 

&quot;how well does it work as a means to your end?   And within that beauty lies the reason behind the ever-growing popularity of the medium - its seemingly endless number of uses for a corresponding number of ends.It’s just another tool in the communications toolbox&quot;

I found this on twitter and as the Social Media coordinator for my organization (and a self-proclaimed SM addict) I am always looking to further educate myself on the subject. I am preparing to give a presentation on the what and why of SM is important and your post just gave me some great ideas! Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops posted too quickly! What I was trying to say is that this bit sums it all up so perfectly: </p>
<p>&#8220;how well does it work as a means to your end?   And within that beauty lies the reason behind the ever-growing popularity of the medium &#8211; its seemingly endless number of uses for a corresponding number of ends.It’s just another tool in the communications toolbox&#8221;</p>
<p>I found this on twitter and as the Social Media coordinator for my organization (and a self-proclaimed SM addict) I am always looking to further educate myself on the subject. I am preparing to give a presentation on the what and why of SM is important and your post just gave me some great ideas! Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Summers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;how well does it work as a means to your end?   And within that beauty lies the reason behind the ever-growing popularity of the medium - its seemingly endless number of uses for a corresponding number of ends.

It’s just another tool in the communications toolbox&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;how well does it work as a means to your end?   And within that beauty lies the reason behind the ever-growing popularity of the medium &#8211; its seemingly endless number of uses for a corresponding number of ends.</p>
<p>It’s just another tool in the communications toolbox&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Starbucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starbucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Christa - thanks for your comment. Yes, time spent can still be calculated, but you&#039;re also correct that measuring the net result is quite difficult. I would offer that the &quot;ROI&quot; needs to be assessed at a higher level - that is, how did my choices as to how I spend my communicating time effect the profit the company made - or the customer counts - or some other objective measurement.  Thanks again for stopping by!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christa &#8211; thanks for your comment. Yes, time spent can still be calculated, but you&#8217;re also correct that measuring the net result is quite difficult. I would offer that the &#8220;ROI&#8221; needs to be assessed at a higher level &#8211; that is, how did my choices as to how I spend my communicating time effect the profit the company made &#8211; or the customer counts &#8211; or some other objective measurement.  Thanks again for stopping by!</p>
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		<title>By: Christa M. Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christa M. Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you can still calculate cost in terms of employee time spent on social media, right? Complicated, yes, but if you had them do a week&#039;s worth of hours spent blogging/tweeting/whatever, as well as hours spent doing more traditional work, then crunch according to salary... wouldn&#039;t that be a start, even if it&#039;s hard to measure the end result (conversions, more positive mentions online, better press, etc.)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you can still calculate cost in terms of employee time spent on social media, right? Complicated, yes, but if you had them do a week&#8217;s worth of hours spent blogging/tweeting/whatever, as well as hours spent doing more traditional work, then crunch according to salary&#8230; wouldn&#8217;t that be a start, even if it&#8217;s hard to measure the end result (conversions, more positive mentions online, better press, etc.)?</p>
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		<title>By: Starbucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starbucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jenny, thanks for stopping by! I agree, in your example, you do have an &quot;X&quot;, because the commercials cost money.  Going on Facebook or Twitter doesn&#039;t cost anything.  If they did start charging for access, the game would indeed change a bit and ROI comes more into play, but I still like Utility better.  Hope all is well, and all the best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jenny, thanks for stopping by! I agree, in your example, you do have an &#8220;X&#8221;, because the commercials cost money.  Going on Facebook or Twitter doesn&#8217;t cost anything.  If they did start charging for access, the game would indeed change a bit and ROI comes more into play, but I still like Utility better.  Hope all is well, and all the best!</p>
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